Nagyon egyetertek. En is talalkoztam kint olyan peldaval, hogy egy csaladnak het ev utan biraltak el a tartozkodasi engedelykerelmet. A csalad fele mehetett haza, a masik fele maradhatott. 7 ev alatt ugye nem hagyhattak el az orszagot, mert akkor vissza sem tudtak volna jonni, igy aztan a gyokerektol mar teljesen elszakadtak. Megjegyzem soha nem vettek igenybe szocialis juttatasokat.

Valaki irta a repulojegyet is kapnak... dolgot... Azert megneznem, hogy 7 evet hogyan lehet osszecsomagolni 20 kg-ba.
Annal az esetnel, amirol en hallottam az tortent, hogy a holland baratok a sajat gepkocsijaikkal segitettek hazafuvarozni a fel csaladot.

Az itteni idegenrendeszeti hivatal egy kaosz. Aki mar ujitott meg itt tartozkodasi engedelyt, az biztos tapasztalta ezt.

A szelsojobb erosodeserol meg mar nem is beszelnek. Neha ugy erzem, hogy mar nincs is hova erosodnie. Kutje moroccans, vuile allochtonen... a kelet-europaiakat meg folyamatosan szemmel kell tartani, es elsokent elovenni, ha valami zur van.

Ahogy egy masik forumon mondjak:

Normal people here (and everywhere else) don't make any general classifications of human beings living here and don't put origin-based stickers. Racists and xenophobists do, so do their politicians and that's something going to my nerves, really.

If you really read their papers between the lines you'll find out that they basically put all foreigners in 4 "boxes":

- Excellent and very useful to be here!
- Good guys - we will tolerate them.
- Bad guys - better keep them on your eye.
- "Kut, weg ermee"

Good guys are EU citizens and Americans, mostly managers and specialists. People welcome here to be ripped off by: authorities, landloards, makelaars and other guys earning money from naive "buitenlanders".

Bad guys are people from Eastern Europe (Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Bulgaria, ex-Yugoslavia ...). Whenever something happens in the neighborhood, they are number #1 to suspect and blame for. They are also typically blamed for relying on social benefits, for taking jobs that every unemployed Dutch person could do etc.

The last ones ("kut") are typically Turks and Maroccans. They are blamed for everything that goes bad here, except weather ... at least for now.